They say the art of conversation is dead but I’ve rescued the drowning chat.
Shoals has had a photo meltdown, affecting not just H&H but also FreeDarko, so that’s why you’re seeing a whole lot of blank boxes on his posts. Anyhoo, for 53 go HERE, HERE, AND THERE. Otherwise you’re on to 54, and for those less familiar with the episode numbers, this season it’s really easy: 54 can be thought of as season 5, episode 4. See how easy that is?
So I normally am not the type to just post up an IM convo like it’s a bother to put together complete sentences and capitalize letters and insert punctuation, but I feel like I got to the bottom of what I felt the unreal events of this most recent episode were all about in the following exchange with Shoals. I hope this doesn’t make us both look too dumb / nerdy / lame. Actually that would be okay.
me: you must be fucking kidding me
Shoals: me? did you watch it?
me: i just finished. i’m in shock
Shoals: well, there it is
Shoals: read my post
me: reading it. hang on
Shoals: running out, back in five minutes
okay, back. do you see what i’m saying? it’s sad, but it’s a crime show, and joe was messing with some serious shit
me: totally. I mean they all are, all the time
Shoals: basically they had lost some faith in joe because of the stick-up. marlo was there to say “i’m that other option”
me: well, seems to me the greeks know that they need to deal with someone, but marlo has shown them that he won’t lie down and take no for an answer
Shoals: and joe might have his flaws. . . “he’s not joe” that meant something
me: they trust and like joe, and don’t have to worry about him for the most part, but nothing is permanent, and their own business has volitility too, but theres an amount of chaos they will accept
and marlo shows that he can do what they need, cleanly, without quesion, and with respect. i think also they are kind of in a corner
suddenly this dude shows up, joe has had problems
me: this dude follows directions
Shoals: he is unstoppable and hard
me: and it’s like, do we kill him or work with him?
Shoals: i can’t wait till people are like “this marlo thing has gone too far.” it’s like, how do you think people become kingpins?
I mean what did avon do?
me: right. gave away turkeys?
Shoals: we never saw it, but it probably looked like this. prop joe, what, he just niced his way into dominance? i mean, marlo is going for absolute fucking broke. gangster honor?
me: right. i don’t think that exists. there’s efficiency, and that always trumps honor
Shoals: look at the mob, they aren’t as hokey as joe. they’re like marlo
me: this is kind of the point of the show, right? what’s efficient for those in power bleeds everything below it dry. the mob is also messy. and sometimes some yahoo gets the reigns and drives the whole thing over a cliff. order may be restored, maybe not, but there’s no natural order.
NATURAL’S NOT IN IT!
marlo’s trying to be the one in charge, and he has the resources to climb higher, so why eat shit and wait for some other kid to have less respect for the chain of command than you? i do think simon can be too sentimental, and sometimes there’s an idea of gangster code in there that gets a litle too much play, like “good ‘ol days” nonsense.
it’s what we want from the criminals we like, but it’s not what they necessarily give us. marlo killed the security guard. avon had the witness killed. it’s going in different directions, but it’s to a similar end. brutality = fear = power
Shoals: yo, there’s your post
me: heh. good thing gmail saves chats. okay i have to work on this cat power review